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« on: May 17, 2007, 09:12:38 PM »

Has anybody done any engine mods to their Galaxy? I was thinkin of a K & N filter and a custom sports exhaust. Will it be worth it and will I gain much on my 2.8?
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2007, 09:22:51 PM »

I  am sure it will make a difference mate !!!
will sound nice if nothing else all that induction roar
and the exhaust note !!!!mmmmmm sweet music!!
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2007, 09:36:05 PM »

Ive got a K&N panel filter in my 1996 2.8 Ghia and used to have a Sebring Twin pipe rear box on it  which made absolutely no noticeable difference to the way it performed or the way it sounded .

I will be adding an induction kit to my 2.3 in the future along with a Projektzwo exhaust  and Im hoping these will make it sound a little sportier if nothing else .

As far as I know , noone does a full exhaust for the Galaxy , so unless you  go to a specialist who can make a system for your car , you are gonna have to make do with a rear silencer , which are pretty expensive .
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2007, 09:47:24 PM »

2.8 lump is basically the same as is fitted to the VR6 Corrado and Golf, so there should be plenty of mods around for it. I'd personally steer clear of a k&n filter (even a whole cold air induction kit) as the oil residue on the filter is pulled through the air intake and clogs the Mass Air Flow meter causing it to deteriorate quicker than it should. I'd plumb for a http://www.greenfilters.com/ one instead.

A rear sports backbox alone won't really improve performance that much, but a catback system will help and obviously a full manifold back performance exhaust will be the best option performance wise. As for what's out there .... well not that much to be honest! lots of it is from Germany (from the strong VW links) but performance mods for the Galaxy can be found if you trawl the net long enough! Projektzwo are big in VW Sharan mods which fit the Galaxy (http://www.projektzwo.de/artikel/fzg.php?marke=14&gruppe=tk&fzg_id=241) and Wolf motorsport too who are UK based. (we also get a club discount with them - check out the members deals and discounts section for more info!)

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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2007, 10:38:21 PM »

If things go to plan on my 2.0l galaxy, the mods will be almost endless. ok it wont be to cheap some of the performace uprades etc, but i know the engines well being escort based, so know what can be done and what sort of power you can get.

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2.3 bottom end
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then you can think about throttle bodys or turbo.

like i said with the i4 engine, the modding is endless, and all has been done before so nice and easy to do.

Anyway, its only at the mo on paper and nothing has been done yet, but have a engine lined up for it when the times right.
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2007, 11:17:32 PM »

will be good to see all that happen over time Twink!! will be awesome mate! Grin
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2007, 11:23:23 PM »

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will be good to see all that happen over time Twink!! will be awesome mate! Grin

Yer hope it turns out ok, most people i spoke to about it, non galaxy owners, have said WHY bother, its a people waggon  BangHead i do these things for fun as i love playing with cars.
Nothing will happen till my RS turbos sold tho, and at the mo i cant bring myself to put it up for sale  Laugh
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2007, 11:39:30 PM »

I can imagine!!!

I get that about it being a people carrier "You're meant to have grown up by now ..." etc. But why not! I have to have the Galaxy as I have 4 kids - no reason I shouldn't make the ownership as enjoyable as possible by making it my own!
And hence the Official Ford Galaxy Owners Club was created LMAO
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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2007, 09:25:12 AM »

mine`s a jim carrier lmao

let the mods start lmao Wink
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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2007, 05:51:26 PM »

hi people, don't won't to pee on your fire but the 2.0l galaxy has the old sierra lump i.e last of the line sierra gt, which is a twin cam 8v the i4 lump is the 2.3 confused! when i bought my galaxy 2.3 zetec i thought it was a zetec but it ain't it's the i4 lump this engine was used in some Mazda's.

the Mk5 rs2000 boys use the 2.3 bottom end because it is stronger and was developed by cosworth.

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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2007, 06:01:15 PM »

Could have done with you si at FITP !
you could of pee'd on Pauls BBQ  Cry Laugh Cry Laugh
dont wish to sound too thick but what is the i4 engine mean??
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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2007, 06:10:31 PM »

nice galaxy by the way Grin to be honest i don't know what the i4 stands for Huh? but that's what it's called like the zetec, pinto and cvh.

but i know the duratech engine was based on the i4 engine it's mixed bag engine the i4 2.3 was also used in the american versions of the focus.

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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2007, 06:14:51 PM »

Thanks for that Si , i am still none the wiser LOL
perhaps James will be able to shed some light on this
for us both?
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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2007, 11:21:01 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2007, 11:26:21 PM »

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hi people, don't won't to pee on your fire but the 2.0l galaxy has the old sierra lump i.e last of the line sierra gt, which is a twin cam 8v the i4 lump is the 2.3 confused! when i bought my galaxy 2.3 zetec i thought it was a zetec but it ain't it's the i4 lump this engine was used in some Mazda's.

the Mk5 rs2000 boys use the 2.3 bottom end because it is stronger and was developed by cosworth.

hope this helps

The 2.0L in the galaxy, and scorpio and sierras, was indeed a 8v, but it is identical to the I4 RS2000 or 2.3 engine, the only diffence is basicly the number of valves. A RS2000 16v head should bolt straight onto the 8v 2.0l bottom end. The only problem is the RS2k bottom end has strong crank and bearings etc. But apart from that the blocks prity much the same.
As you said about the zetec, The zetec stops at 2.0l and as far as im aware has never even been found in a galaxy. Well my parts doesn`t list it thats for sure.

As for I4 engine, no idea what it stands for TBH. CVH stands for Compact valve something  Laugh i think.

Anyway, an rs2k i4 16v engine should bolt straigh in no problems at all apart from the electric side of it, but that wont be to hard being an electrician  Laugh
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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2007, 11:45:28 PM »

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Compound Valve Hemispherical!  Sorry, twinkle, I'm just trying to be clever. It's one of those useless pieces of information I never forget Roll Eyes

I should get out more. Wink
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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2007, 12:06:01 AM »

hi twincle, yes that is right i went on wykipedia after i posted but i'm sure i read that the two engines were different  Undecided

some say that a panel filter is better than a full out induction kit i put a K&N cone filter on my galaxy it improved my throttle responce but not great deal i've since gone back to the standard air box.

i have to admit the galaxy induction system isn't the best as there's no real way getting cold air to the filter. Huh?

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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2007, 12:19:37 AM »

I've been having a little look at the cold air induction side of things lately and I recon that if you remove the filter box and the slide out pannel behind the drivers side headlight there is plenty of room to manoever a flexi pipe through to the lower grille area next to the front fog lamps to scoop in cold air to feed the cone kit.

What difference does having the cone kit fitted opposed to a performance pannel filter make? if any?
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« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2007, 10:09:02 AM »

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What difference does having the cone kit fitted opposed to a performance pannel filter make? if any?

fitting a cone filter will do prity much nothing because, what happens all the hot air in the engine bay get sucked into the un incloded filter, and hot air going is is a bad thing, will reduce performance. Even putting a cold air feed wont help that much.
If you want a cone filter, an inclosed one is what you need, like the pipercross viper or green twister these defo work and give good gains for an airfilter.

Or as most of the perfomance ford are now doing, using the standard air box with performance panel filter, you drill holes in the airbox (not big holes) so it can suck in the extra air, but its also still protected from heat as its in the air box. this is a cheap yet good gain.
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« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2007, 10:28:05 AM »

what about fitting a cone filter inside the air box which I've seen done before will this make any improvements over just a replacement panel filter?

I know any gains will be minimal anyway if this is the only mod that is done, but I'm just curious as to the purpose of the cone filters - are they just more for show or are they actually more efficient than a flat panel filter? Also, will any extra air coming in be counteracted by the ECU adjusting fuel flow from the figures being fed to it by the MAF? I'm in a questioning mood today Scratch Chin LMAO
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« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2007, 05:54:31 PM »

hi Cepheus,
              i think a rolling road day is in order Shocked but i did read in performance or fast ford i can't remember they did a test on a ford focus 1.8 zetec and found the best results were from a panel filter in a drilled air box.

all i've done is drilled my airbox and put the holes nearest the inner wing on the curved bit on the bottom of the airbox so that it breathes in extra air away from the hottest part engine bay, it appears that my throttle responce has improved very slightly with  bit of  induction roar.

the only effects on the maf is that the ecu or ecm senses that there is more air and adjusts the mixture accordingly i.e richer thus getting slightly better performance.

hope this is of help..
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« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2007, 08:27:02 PM »

I would definitely recommend LongLife to anyone thinking of getting a custom built S/Steel exhaust.  Firstly they are made from better grade s/s than all the other so called performance exhaust manufacturers (after 4 years on my Rover it still polishes to a gleaming shine).  It is also guaranteed for as long as you keep the car and you can choose whatever tail pipes you want.  It takes about 5 hours, but well worth it.

Reading the posts in this thread about induction kits, have people declared these to their insurance companies?  Lips Sealed  I currently pay approx double the usual price to ensure all my mods are taken into account.
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« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2007, 08:59:22 PM »

i've declared my mods with no effect on my premuim i have to say Adrian flux is very fair when comes to mods body wise i can mod to the hills engine mods if not to extreme will also cover this without incurring penalty Grin
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« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2007, 09:32:22 PM »

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i've declared my mods with no effect on my premuim i have to say Adrian flux is very fair when comes to mods body wise i can mod to the hills engine mods if not to extreme will also cover this without incurring penalty Grin

Glad to hear it fella.  Spooky I'm Adrian Flux.  The penalty I get must be because the car is group 17.  Ho Hum!
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i've declared my mods with no effect on my premuim i have to say Adrian flux is very fair when comes to mods body wise i can mod to the hills engine mods if not to extreme will also cover this without incurring penalty Grin

Glad to hear it fella.  Spooky I'm Adrian Flux.  The penalty I get must be because the car is group 17.  Ho Hum!

If they have your car in Group 17 I would be changing companies sharpish .

I have a 2.8 Ghia and a 2.8 Ghia X 4x4 and both are in Group 15 .
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« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2007, 06:38:48 AM »

Tesco's have charged me £80, to insure my wheels and road springs!
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http://www.needforspeed.co.uk/pages/sbv_pl.asp?Vehicle=FDGAL01&PartType=AFG08


thats agreat price the single cone induction kit for the 90ps also fits the 115 on mk2
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« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2007, 01:08:52 AM »

Hmm 

Any body considered the 3.2 from Audi TT , Golf R32, Etc.

Same but bigger, approx 240BHP ? should be a simple change (well relatively) Wink

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